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Is My Humatrope Legit?

I want to take a moment and explain this to our customers. We have been selling the Humatrope 72 iu kits for several years now. I believe these are the highest quality HGH kits I am able to procure and we pay top dollar to get them. Several months ago, I was made aware of some counterfeit or non-authentic Humatrope kits going around. At first this caught me off guard, as I would not think a Humatrope kit would be something profitable to fake, as there are many components to the kit including the HGH cartridge vial, the pen filled with BAC water, the packaging, etc. Going through the effort to produce all of these different elements in the kit would cost a small fortune and you would have to do this in China or some other country with lax controls on copyright and counterfeit policies. I was immediately skeptical of this and began to do some research to ensure the kits we have been buying are in fact real and authentic.

I believe 100% of the Authentic Humatrope HGH kits being sold on the black market are produced in Turkey. I believe Lilly has a production facility there and this is why the majority (if not all) of the Humatrope we see on the black markets are from Turkey. One would figure that buying from a source located in Turkey would guarantee you a legit kit, but I found this not to be the case. I obtained, what I know for certain is a real authentic Humatrope 72 iu kit. I also procured what I suspected was a non authentic Humatrope 72 iu kit. While looking at them both side-by-side, you’d be hard pressed to ‘see’ the difference in the packaging, as they are almost identical. Here are the main differences I am seeing as I inspect these both. Please note, this is not a be all end all for this subject, just what I am observing as I research this topic online and while holding the 2 kits side by side.

Key differences:

– the authentic kit’s box has a matte finish on it; the non-authentic one has a more glossy finish.

– the authentic kit’s label on the HGH cartridge holding the HGH powder has a few key differences.

a) the non-authentic kit’s label can be easily peeled off, the corners are not firmly glued on.

b) the non-authentic kit’s label has a slightly different color of yellow on the side closest to the rubber stopper you draw out off.

c) the authentic kit has the brighter, more pronounced yellow; the non-authentic has a more transparent slightly dull color. (see image below)

 

– the cylinder cartridge with the HGH powder in it has far less powder in the non-authentic vs. the authentic kit. In some of my research, I have seen others say the non-authentic cartridge has more powder, (less puck) in the HGH itself. In my experience, the HGH in the authentic kits have almost always been in a ‘puck’ form, and not powdery or loose.

The price would be the biggest red flag that I see differentiating these the most. I am seeing the non-authentic kits being sold for about 30-40% less than what we normally pay for them. I have also seen an abundance of sources offer to ship these kits from within the US (and still for 30-40% less cost). Normally we import these kits from Turkey into the US. Anyone claiming they can ship these from within the US for much cheaper than normal is most likely selling a non-authentic kit.

So are the non-authentic kits all fakes and useless? This is a very good question and one I cannot easily answer; however, I will give some info here that may help. We recently purchased about 50 of the non-authentic kits. A source we had used in the past was selling these trying to pass them off as authentic. We purchased them and, upon receiving them in, realized they are not identical to those that we have purchased previously. This situation was the genesis of this article and the research we have been doing on this topic. I wanted to see if the non-authentic product we purchased actually had HGH in it? I know many many products that are ‘faked’ or counterfeit, that we have personally tested have been found to have the correct active ingredient in it and at doses matching the label claim. Others will have authentic product, but less potent then the labels claim. Upon administering this HGH for a few days myself, I feel confident that it contains real HGH, as the immediate effects are felt by me and several others. We’ll be sending these out for testing as well, but the HGH testing takes longer to complete then other AAS. Once we have those results back we can formally report on this matter and help to fill in the gaps of information.

In conclusion I want to be as transparent as possible with our customers and anyone reading this. If you are purchasing Humatrope 72 iu HGH kits from Turkey, please make sure you know what you’re buying and do some research so you are fully aware of the hazards. We have a limited stock of the authentic Humatrope 72iu kits in now, and we will also be selling these non-authentic Humatrope kits as well– for a significantly reduced price until we are out of them. I feel confident that this batch of non-authentic kits we have in now do contain HGH, but I cannot confirm the exact amount yet, so please be aware of this.

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Post Cycle Treatment (PCT) What do I use?

PCT (post cycle therapy) is administered after your steroid cycle and sometimes can begin weeks before your done with your cycle. There are several different ways to run a PCT regimen, but the most popular and effective products are HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex ( or another anti estrogen). The goal when using a PCT is to restart the bodies own natural testosterone production and get it back to normal levels. While using steroids the body will shut down its own natural testosterone production as you’re getting exogenous testosterone from the products your using. A good PCT will last between 4-8 weeks.

Below is a typical dosing schedule for these 3 products.

HCG 5000iu / inject 2500 iu every week for 4-8 weeks.

Clomid 50mg / take one pill daily for 4-8 weeks

Nolvadex 25mg / take one 25mg pill daily (can use 2 pills if estrogen side effects are bad) for 4-8 weeks

 

If your doing a longer cycle (3 months +)  I would recommend starting your PCT 2 weeks before your last shot. I have found that using the HCG in smaller daily injections can really help the body to get production going again. I have found that these smaller 200 iu injections mimic the bodies own production better and I seem to react much better to a protocol like this.

Here is a PCT for a more advanced user.

HCG 5000iu / inject 200 iu every week for 6-8 weeks.

Clomid 50mg / take one pill daily for 6-8 weeks

Nolvadex 25mg / take one 25mg pill daily (can use 2 pills if estrogen side effects are bad) for 6-8 weeks

HMG* 150iu / take 50 iu injection every 2-3 days for 3-4 weeks

 

*HMG stands for ‘Human menopausal gonadotropin’ and acts on the follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) to help get testosterone production and normal hormone levels back to normal. I personally think the HMG works much better then the HCG, but can be expensive to run it properly.

Once you have completed a PCT its wise to get your blood work done to check the baseline levels when your off completely, or when your on a TRT dose. If you need more information on PCT products please contact us and we’d be more then happy to help you identify the correct products to use.

G, and Team Gear Depot

 

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Drug expiration dates- Do they mean anything?

So…you have a splitting headache and you reach into the medicine cabinet for some aspirin, only to find the stamped expiration date on the bottle has passed — two years ago. So, do you take it or not? If you decide to take the aspirin will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache? This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in PyschopharmacologyToday offers some advice.

It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date!

So the expiration date doesn’t really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. Yes, there are certain drugs that should not be used under any circumstance if they are past the exp date, I would venture to say anything that is critical to saving you life would fall under this criteria, but for 95% of the drugs and supplements you use, they are just fine.

It’s true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool dry place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.

Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way, or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. Although I don’t doubt most drug companies enjoy having a shorter exp date as it requires many govt institutions, hospitals and clinics to restock their supply or face lawsuits for selling/administering drugs past their exp date.

So the bottom line in this is to ensure your products are stored in a cool dry place and you will be sure to have effectiveness for as long as you have your drugs on hand. Keep in a cool dark place and it will surpass the exp. date by many many years.

I want to amend this article and state something on HGH. Being a peptide that is unstable in room temp conditions it will not stay stable/effective nearly as long as an inject oil or a tablet. I don’t want anyone to think we are saying that HGH will be good for several years after the exp if it’s kept in a cool dry place. I would highly recommend keeping your HGH in the fridge on the shelf (not the door where it is swinging open and getting disturbed regularly), so please let me state that clearly. I would strongly advise anyone to administer their HGH within the suggested exp date on their HGH, and to keep it in the fridge to make sure they are getting full potency out of it.

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Why do you carry so many different HGH kits and what is the best?

As many of you know, we have carried many different brands of HGH like riptropin kits, black tops, grey tops, nuptropins, angetropins, humatrope, etc etc..

Many people ask which HGH is best? There are so many HGH kits being sold right now its hard to know what is good and what is bad. I want to explain why we carry several different brands of the HGH, and the differences between some of them.

We have been ordering HGH for over 13 years now. The majority of the HGH on the grey market comes from china. We have a few products like Humatrope that don’t come from china, but for the most part all HGH is coming out of china now. HGH is made in large batches. many things can effect the potency of the HGH like

  • Manufacturing processes
  • Light exposure
  • Heat exposure
  • Temperature stability
  • Time the HGH is in liquid form

We are seeing a lot of HGH come out of china that has been widely different batch to batch. 9 years ago we got burned on a large shipment of HGH we had ordered. We placed a test order with he supplier, sent the stuff off for testing and it came back on point so we placed an order for 500 kits. Once we got them we had some more tested and realized we got screwed. Since this incident 9 years ago we have been testing each batch we receive to ensure its up to par. The reason we carry different types of HGH at different times of the year is simple, we test each batch, and only buy the batches that test high. By doing this we can assure the quality of the HGH is on par with our standards. So if you see a HGH product listed as ‘in stock’ on our list, you can rest assured its been tested and the potency is on point.

when we are looking to buy more HGH we contact several of our HGH suppliers and will have them send off kits for testing to an independent lab for analysis. If the tests come back on point we place the order and buy. Many times the tests will come back 2 weeks later and show unusually low values, when this happens we just pass on that batch and buy another suppliers HGH that has tested out high. By doing this we are able to sure the HGH we are selling is potent and dosed correctly.

I am proud of the HGH we have on the site right now. The manufacturers in China have come a long way with this over the past 10 years when we first saw HGH coming from China. Many of them now know they can’t pass off low dosed HGH to anyone as we are able to easily test it to confirm its legit. If you have any other questions or comments on this please don’t hesitate to let us know.

Thanks,

G

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How to mix the humatrope 72IU GH

Humatrope 72 iu HGH is made by Lilly. Its 100% real, sealed from their factory. It will come with a small cylindrical vial that has powder in it. On one side of this vial it will have a red rubber stopper. On this same side you will see a yellow band around the vial and some arrows or triangles pointing to this end. This is the end that you will stick the insulin syringe in to pull out your HGH once you have it mixed.

Now, the other devise in the package is a large pen that is holding 3.15mL of water. This pen is used to transfer the water from in the pen, to the inside of the small cylindrical vail. You will take the cap off the bottom of the pen, and there will be a ‘needle cover’ you will need to pull and remove as well. Once you remove this you will see a small needle that is tucked inside there. You will connect this end of the pen, to the side of the small cylindrical vail with the yellow band and arrows. You will slid the small cylindrical vail into the end of the pen and you will turn it about a half turn to the right and it will lock to secure itself. Now, you will push on the back-end of the pen’s plunger and this will push water from the pen, into the small cylindrical vail of HGH. Once you have all of the water in there, you can turn the pen a half turn to the left and it will come off and detach from the vial. Now, at this point the pen is not needed for anything else, you can throw it away. Next you will roll the small cylindrical vial of HGH and water until it’s all mixed, DON’T shake it in your hand, as this can damage the HGH in there. Its delicate and needs to be treated as such. Once its mixed and the solution looks clear its ready to be used. You will draw out of the side with he red rubber stopper and the yellow band around the vial. You can draw out of this just like you would any other HGH vial. Use an insulin syringe and simply fill the syringe to the desired amount.

Now, the constitution of the HGH and water will be a different ratio or HGH to water then your probably used to. You have just mixed 3.15mL water in 72 iu of HGH. This gives you a concentration of 0.24 iu of HGH, in every 1 iu of water.

Your insulin syringes are probably 100 iu (or 1cc, or 1mL)

Seeing as the ratio of HGH is 1iu of water to 0.24 iu of HGH. This is a guide for determining how much water to draw to get the desired amount of HGH.

1iu water = 0.24 iu HGH

2iu water= 0.48 iu HGH

3iu water= 0.72 iu HGH

4iu water =0.96 iu HGH ( basically 1iu of HGH)

5iu water= 1.2 iu HGH

6iu water= 1.44 iu HGH

7iu water= 1.68 iu HGH

8iu water= 1.92 iu HGH

9iu water = 2.16 iu HGH

10iu water =2.4 iu HGH

15iu water =3.6 iu HGH

20iu water = 4.8 iu HGH

To get the exact amount, you can simply take the amount of HGH you want to do, lets say its 4 iu of HGH. Just divide that # by 0.24. So if you want to use 4 iu of HGH, you would calculate 4 / 0.24 = 16.6 iu of water. That is the amount you would draw to = 4 iu of HGH.

Please keep in mind that this HGH is about 2x as potent as other brands. I don’t understand this? and I don’t have any reasoning on how this is so?, but may of the people who use this Humatrope HGh can take 50% of the dose they normally do and get the same if not more effect. Personally I use 7-8 iu of HGH each time I inject with the grey tops or black tops. When i use Humatrope I can only handle 3-4 iu. before my hands begin to really swell and ache.

When shipping this HGH we don’t use dry ice. The manufacturer recommends that you use dry ice when shopping it, but we have found very little if any degradation if we ship this within 3 months of when we receive it. We receive them brand new from the factory. I was skeptical of this claim that it could be shipped without dry ice so we did some internal testing. I had 5 kits sent from the manufacturer in Europe, to My shipper in the US using no ice. The shipper then sent it to a GearDepot Tester across the country with no ice, He then sent it to the testing facility back across the country with no ice. They reconstituted it and tested it there. We saw a 1.8% degradation in potency which is within the 3% that is considered acceptable.

After you receive this HGH, and you have reconstituted it (mixed the water with the HGH powder) you will want to keep it in the fridge after that. Please don’t put it in the door of the fridge as it will be shaken around every time you open the door. Once its been mixed it’s not nearly as stable and needs to be treated delicately.

I encourage you to try this brand and let us know your results. We feel fortunate we’re able to carry it and offer it to our customers.

Thanks,

G